@voxday Did JCW not warn you how many witnesses were within earshot of his event-that-didn't-happen? Now you both look like idiots. @pnh
— tnielsenhayden (@tnielsenhayden) September 15, 2015
@voxday Note for future: if you're going to make up any more stories like that, don't set them at the pre-Hugo reception. @pnh
— tnielsenhayden (@tnielsenhayden) September 15, 2015
Bear in mind, of course, that TNH admits she was not a witness to the confrontation herself.Vox Day has weighed in with his interpretation:
Notice that Patrick Nielsen Hayden hasn't issued any public denials on Twitter. He doesn't want to risk getting caught out publicly lying about his own behavior. The Toad is obviously getting desperate. I wasn't there. I don't claim to have been there. I haven't made anything up and it wouldn't even make sense for me to make anything up.I'll reiterate my earlier call for PNH to explain what happened.
The fact of the matter is that contra the Toad's lying, the Senior Editor at Tor Books, Patrick Nielsen Hayden, did raise his voice, he did shout at a woman, he did tell her to tell her husband, a Tor Books author, to "stick it up his ass", and he did shout about "blood libel" to a Jewish woman. He is an unprofessional and verbally abusive man.
Those are facts to which there were several witnesses.
The weird thing is that Lamplighter herself did not seem especially upset by the whole episode. This whole thing would have blown over had PNH simply apologized for losing his temper (assuming that things happened as Lamplighter says). Now, unless a recording appears or more witnesses want to come forward, we are left watching this exchange of words without any facts to back them up.
I doubt anything will happen to PNH at Tor Books. And in the absence of more facts we do not know if anything should happen. But I can't believe that this is good for Tor Books, let alone for fandom.
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